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speaker john boehner finally meeting face-to-face over the fiscal cliff. they sat down at the white house yesterday. neither side is discussing details. both agree the lines of communication remain open. massive tax hikes and spending cuts take hold in 22 days if the two leaders can't work out a deal. >> a busy day sunday at seattle city hall. 133 same-sex couples tied the knot. sarah and emily cover were among the first couples to get married. the same-sex couples married sunday in seattle were among the first to pick up their marriage licenses last thursday. the state required a three-day waiting period before ceremonies. >>> european union leaders are in oslo to receive the nobel peace prize. hundreds of protesters have been braving oslo's snow. the prize was meant to honor contributions to disarmament and eu member states account for a third of global arms exports. >> thanks, christine. >>> it is now 15 minutes after the hour. time for "early read," your local newsmaking national headlines. a big medical story in the "philadelphia enquirer." it's in a lot of papers this morning. very
and house speaker john boehner get together a little more than three weeks before we hit the fiscal cliff. >> gone too soon. a mexican-american singing superstar killed as a small plane plunges into a mountain range. >> just devastated for them. i'm really feeling for them. >> raw and emotional. two radio hosts talk about the family of the nurse who took her own life after getting duped by their prank call. >>> good morning, to you. welcome to "early start." welcome back, mr. berman. >> it is great to be here. i was on vacation for a week. now i'm back. i'm john berman. it is 5:00 a.m. in the east. i am feeling that. but this, they are talking for the first time in over three weeks. president obama and house speaker john boehner looked each other in the eye and actually had a conversation. now that's a really big deal when it comes to the fiscal cliff crisis. because in just 22 days americans face severe tax hikes and spending cuts unless these two leaders can find a way to compromise. now neither side would discuss specifics about their conversation. but after yesterday's white house mee
on the fiscal cliff. john is next, from new york, receiving unemployment benefits. caller: my biggest concern right now with the unemployment thing is that i do not have a ged so my biggest problem is attending school in programs while i am trying to get back to work, and nobody in this economy will touch somebody without a high-school diploma. it is hard, because i have worked my whole life and i have three kids to raise. it is hard, because i have to go back to work. something needs to change. i'm a hard-working some of the gun and everyone in my family knows it. i hear everyone talking about how this economy is bad. i'm doing side jobs just to put food on the table. the next as government assistance, and we should not have to be there. host: how will the fiscal cliff negotiations affect you? will you lose benefits? caller: i will lose benefits at the end of december, and i will have to go on county assistance to see what they can do to help, but i would rather go back to work. i started picking work when i was 12 years old. host: what are you doing to prepare for the scenario? caller: i am
hand on the fiscal cliff. house speaker john boehner's facing something of a revolt within gop's ranks over his budget plan. we'll have the latest from washington when we come back. >>> talks between the white house and republicans over the fiscal cliff have ran to something of a holt. john boehner dealing with division in the gop's ranks to his bung budget plan. another shanghai surprise. china's mainland market surge nearly 3%. more austerity. plus, austerity measures are hitting european consumers. retail sales in october fall much more than expected. september also revised sharply to the downside. >>> it was a flat day really for european stocks, slightly negative for u.s. stocks yesterday. we are a little bit higher. the dow is currently some 43 points above fair value. the nasdaq is around four points above fair value. the s&p 500 at the moment is around about four points above fair value. european stocks are up half a percent earlier. we have come off those highs. eurozone pmis a little bit better than expected. but still deeply in contraction territory. uk services pmis dipped
been made in the case. >> three weeks until the fiscal cliff and president obama and house speaker john banner and at a private meeting at the white house yesterday to discuss the deal. the president and the speaker refuses think about the details of the meeting and some republicans are now putting increased pressure on party leaders to rethink opposition to tax hikes on the wealthy of taking get entitlements cuts in return. many house republicans refused report tax hikes under any circumstances. democrats of is rushing through entitlement reforms you for the end of the year. >> watching some stalls, several on the bay bridge we will have more on weather and traffic coming up. >> the opening bell on wall street is about 20 minutes away. looming fiscal crisis on the market today. we did better than we did expect it from mcdonald's this morning. rob black will be coming up at 645. the dow futures point to a lower opening this morning. >> men and women have equal footing in the nation's economic recovery according to the latest numbers from the labor department. the biggest numbers for men
john boehner sit down over the weekend with just weeks to go over the fiscal cliff. >>> take a look at european trade this morning. ftse mib is leading the way down, down 3.37% at the moment. so continuing to slowly build on those losses. we have seen a couple of italian banks halted after being downgraded 5%. somewhat smaller losses across the rest of the bourses. the ibex 35 in spain, down almost 1.5%. we can take a quick look there.f investors are rotating out of the periphery. italy and spain, moving higher. bund is below 1.3% as a result. italian shares are trading lower. banks stocks particularly hard hit on the back of political uncertainty generated by mario monte's position to resign from his post as prime minister. his departure is likely to lead to an early election in february. monte's predecessor has announced his attention intengz to return to office. sylvia berlusconi says he'll seek a fifth term as italian premier. carolin is following this situation from rome. how likely is it that we see berlusconi return to politics next year? >> kelly, you know what? it's pretty
.c., no news at all. silence about the fiscal cliff. the president and the house speaker john boehner holding closed door meetings to work out a deal or try to. 21 days and counting away from tax hikes and spending cuts going into affect. and congress breaks for christmas on friday. here is where things stand. the president hitting the road to sell his tax plan to -- at a truck plant to workers in michigan. and there are fiscal cliff talks and on capitol hill for a single day, all was quiet. that's always bad news if you are a political reporter, shannon travis live in washington, d.c.. there are some people who say well, let's read into the silence, because that's all we're getting and it's good news. do you feel that way? >> could be potentially good news. there is this notion of not negotiating through the media. the stakes are high, puts pressure on both sides. so on? that sense, as much as we would love to know what's going on in these discussions, it might be good to take some of the pressure off. i will read a statement from house speaker john boehner's press secretary. discussions wit
cliff. even though speaker of the house john boehner's office says the lines of communication on both sides are open we know one thing is not being discussed by democrats and that one thing is extending the busheir raw tax cuts for top earners. >> oo i am not going to sign any package that prevents the top to go up but i am going to get something that is good for this fm lay and good for the american economy. >> in the senate mitch mcconnell proposed a vote on the part of the president's proposal that would allow the white house and not congress to control on its own without their input. but majority leader harry reid said that is not. >> if the president's proposal is made in good faith our friends should be eager to vote for them. so i am surprised the majority leader declined a chance for them to support it for their votes. so i guess we are left to conclude that it couldn't pass by a fair majority of votes and that they would rather that i can take the country off the cliff. >> get ready to listen to lawmakers today try to spin the unemployment report in favor of their proposal o
fiasco. >>> plus, congressman chris van hollen on john boehner's latest concession on the fiscal cliff. michael eric dyson and donna genteel-o'donnell on the political fallout. howard dean on chris christie's big decision on the obama care exchange. and apple's ceo breaks big news to nbc's brian williams. >> next year, we will do one of our existing mac lines in the united states. >> tonight, a story of economic patriotism in an era of bain capital with e.j. dionne. good to have you with us tonight, folks. thanks for watching. the reality start to set in on members of the republican party. republican senator jim demint of south carolina is leaving kplil capitol hill to become president of the heritage foundation. don't cry for demint. the out-going president of the heritage foundation made $1.1 million according to 2010 tax filings. demint will do just fine. it's not just about the money. the senator realizes he could be more effective for the conservative movement if he's not attached to the dysfunctional party known as the republican party. in a statement, demint said "i'm leaving th
speaker john boehner and republicans in a box on fiscal cliff negotiations. and the evidence is mounting. president obama stayed on offense today, visiting the santana family in northern virginia whose taxes will go up more than $4,000 in 2013 if middle class tax cuts aren't extended. >> i'm encouraged to see that there's been some discussion on the part of republicans acknowledging the need for additional revenue. as i've indicated, the only way to get the kind of revenue for a balanced deficit reduction plan is to make sure that we're also modestly increasing rates for people who can afford it. folks like me. just to be clear, i'm not going to sign any package that somehow prevents the top rate from going up for folks at the top 2%. >> the concerted effort from the white house is very clear. here's white house press secretary jay carney. >> what will produce a deal is an acknowledgement by republicans, republican leaders, that rates on the top 2%, the wealthiest americans, have to rise. there is no deal without that acknowledgement, and without a concrete, mathematically sound proposal
. >> just three weeks of to the fiscal cliff, and president obama and house speaker john boehner had a private meeting at the white house today to discuss a deal. the president and the speaker refused to discuss details about the meeting. some republicans and now putting increased pressure our party leaders to rethink opposition to tax hikes on the wealthy is taking get entitled meant cuts in return. many house republicans refused to support tax cuts under circumstances. the cresdemocrats have been settled out rushing through entitlement hewlett-packard is up 4%. the stock up to $14.35 at we have rumors floating that carl icon is buying up shares in the company. >> we will be watching closely. will be back at 915 with our financial analyst raw black. >> traffic backed up on this bug in morning 101 both about rep the 87 interchange. >> our financial analyst rober black will have more on wall street when we come back. p0jg welcome back the time is 8:09 a.m.. if you like to turn holiday shopping into a last minute marathon macy's is willing to help you out. the department store chain wi
. it is glammy and overcast in washington today but everybody is looking for bright signs about the fiscal cliff. we have a bright side yesterday when john boehner came here to the white house. house speaker to talk to president obama. first individual one on one meeting since the election and that meeting and some other signals that have been sent publicly by both parties have caused some noted skeptics of us getting a fiscal cliff deal. >> i think the atmospherics are getting so much better. we've gotten out after ka bookie theater and gone to dancing the tango with those two guys. any time you start to tango, you have a chance. >> chances of getting it done now are better. i think that's what's key. >> part of that tango is republicans cracking on tax rates. that's what president obama will be talking about in michigan today. keeping the public pressure on. but the part for the administrator point of view, tyler, is what do they live john boehner so he can bring his troops along, entitlement, spending cuts, to tell their members we got a good deal. >> john, i find it curious to find that pres
disapprove of how house speaker john boehner is handling the fiscal cliff talks. dennis: this as the speaker himself came out this morning saying there's a lot of work to do. rich edson is in washington d.c. bureau. what is the very latest? rich: in a republican congressman with knowledge of the talks as the two side are farther apart than they were last summer when debt talks between president obama and john boehner fell apart. republicans and democrats have new debt proposals on the table. the speaker says there are still serious differences. >> the president is calling for $1.4 trillion -- that cannot pass the house or the senate. >> force is a question of balance. we are willing to make sure everyone in america sacrifices a little. even those who have been struggling. liz: congress is running out of time to get this wrapped for christmas. the speaker would have to cover significant ground giving congress the week it needs to write, sell land pass any deal next week. aides say they are not close to a compromise. house majority leader eric cantor says republicans are prepared to work on th
to avert the fiscal cliff. there has been an epidemic of open-mindedness as republicans try to win minority votes and create a version of their party that can be competitive in states like connecticut and california. the republicans may still blow it. if president obama is flexible and they don't meet him part way, republicans would contribute to a recession that would discredit them for a decade. but they are moving in the right direction and moving fast. these are first steps, and encouraging ones. >> really encouraging. and it's not just what they're saying. it's how they're saying it. eric cantor came on. we've all, i think at times, even i as a conservative, who would vote probably along with eric cantor 99% of the time. saw him at times over the past couple years being a bit more obstructionist than i think was good for the party. i thought i loved his tone the other day. what did he focus on? he focused on jobs, on proving that conservatism actually helped all americans, not 53%, not 47%. and yesterday when i talked to jim demint on the phone, i expected to hear one thing. instead i
his closed door session with john boehner that had speculations swirling as the fiscal cliff deadline draws near. the very latest from washington. hi, karen. >> good morning, rob, good morning, paula. aides to president and john boehner say they're not going to do the fiscal cliff negotiation through the media and they're doing a really good job on trying to keep a tight lid on how the negotiations are going. outside detroit, president obama issued a warning of what may happen if middle class tax rates go up. if the nation heads over the fiscal cliff. >> consumer spending will go down. that means you've got less customers. businesses get fewer profits. they hire fewer workers. you go on a downward spiral. >> reporter: the president met with house speaker john boehner at the white house. their face-to-face meeting in three weeks. neither side would offer any details from the discussion, which may be a good sign of modest progress. but a spokesman for the republican leader said boehner did not back down. his offer to the white house last week is still the gop's position in the fiscal cl
stories. >>> president obama and house speaker john boehner chatting by phone about the fiscal cliff. no details or word of progress or future talks with just 26 days remaining to get a deal done. another prominent republican is breaking ranks. tom coburn, a leading conservative and fiscal hawk saying he'd prefer raising taxes on the wealthy as a way to raise revenues. >>> a bitter turf war between twitter and instagram elle cl escalating. no one on twitter will be able to see the images posted on instagram. instagram's goal is getting people to post more photos on their site. >>> a man cannot have any more children until he shows proof that he can actually afford those children. 44-year-old corey curtis is charged with failure to support two of the nine children that he's fathered with six women. he owes $85,000 and says he is ready to abide by the judge's order. >> good idea. >> all right. the grammy nominations announced in style with a star-studded concert, jay z and kanye west were among the six artists tied for the most nominations, six apiece. the grammy awards ceremony, music
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. >>> here is where we are on the fiscal cliff talks. we are less than three weeks now from the 1-2 punch of tax increases and government spending cuts and the two sides appear to be moving farther apart. here's house speaker john boehner describing his latest negotiations with the president, just over the phone last night. >> the president and i had a pretty frank conversation about just how far apart we are. >> dana bash is our senior congressional correspondent. she s unearthed some surprising new details here about the speaker's latest offer to the president. dana, what can you tell us? >> reporter: well, we were told first earlier today by democratic source that part of the reason why that phone call between the president and the speaker didn't go so well to put it mildly is because part of the republican counteroffer they sent to the white house yesterday included a renewed call for, quote, permanent tax cuts for the wealthiest americans. now, we know that that is a nonstarter in general for the president. he said it ump team times, but the democrats at the white house felt that to
the fiscal cliff. mr. obama and house speaker john boehner took a step yesterday, speaking about the standoff on the phone. i guess at least they weren't texting, right? while the details of their chat remain private, both men continued to talk past each other in public. >> let's allow higher rates to go up for the top 2%. >> there are ways to limit deductions, close loopholes, and have the same people pay more, more of their money to the federal government, without raising tax rates, which we believe will harm our economy. >> treasury secretary tim geithner also weighed in yesterday saying the president is willing to allow the nation to go over the cliff if republicans don't agree to raise taxes on the wealthy. >>> we are learning new details about colorado's shooting suspect james holmes now that thousands of e-mails in the case have been released. messages indicate holmes may have had a brief romantic relationship in the days before the tragedy. we have learned that in early june, holmes began specifically talking and fantasizing about killing a lot of people. his psychiatrist was so worri
john boehner and representative pelosi on the fiscal cliff negotiations. >> we have had these explosions of knowledge in medicine, but we have not coordinated care and all of the services that we have end up having cracks that they are as harmful as the diseases that we are treating. you need to step back and ask -- are we hurting people overall on a global level? what are we doing sometimes? now we have the institute of medicine report to think. 30% of everything we do may not be necessary in healthcare? 30% of the medications that we describe? the procedures? this is something that is for the first time really being called out as a problem. >> dysfunction in the u.s. healthcare industry. dr. marty makary on his book " unaccountable." on c-span 2. >> it is estimated that it would cost -- [indiscernible] [bells ringing] >> i chose to honor both. the sacrifice of american servicemen fighting their way through the pacific and a little girl who died as a result of an atomic bombing. it is unimaginable what that must've been like to be close to the center where the fireball
on with the fiscal cliff negotiations and we heard from john boehner that he wants obamacare on the table. is this an opportunity for the president to acknowledge the fact that this bill is so unpopular, continues to be so unpopular and perhaps sit down and negotiate some positive changes to the health care law that everybody could be on board with? should this president take that opportunity right now? >> right now, no because it is adding too much complexity to a negotiation that is trying to get done between now and christmas. next year i think everything should be on the table, right? i think as we look to fashion the budget. rick: including obamacare? >> i think that if the republicans and president has said this repeatedly, if they can bring ideas to the table that will improve obamacare he will be open to it. so i think you will see everything on the table next year. but i think i want to be clear he is not backing away from the health care reform that he pushed so hard for because the old system wasn't working. we need a better health care system. remember, this year the past year
and house speaker john boehner met today at the white house to talk about ways to resolve the fiscal cliff. meanwhile, we have brand-new reaction from lawmakers from both sides of the aisle speaking out today with just weeks left to reach a deal and little reported progress. the fight appears to be moving towards spending cuts and more and more republicans seem to open to the call to raise taxes on the wealthy. >> there is a growing group of folks that are looking at this and realizing we don't have a lot of cards as it relates to the tax issue. we 6 one house and that is it. a lot of people are putting forth a theory and i think it has merit where i go ahead and give the president the 2%, one speaker calls for an increase in revenues to 39.6 and the other things that the president hats called for. we have done trillion in cuts but we realize there will have to be other cuts and serious negotiations about that. we will have different views. my view and senator corker's views are different but we will have to find spending cuts. >> heather: brad blakeman is assistant to george w. bush and j
our guest host, senator john thune. he is with us for the hour to talk about the fiscal cliff. talk about jobs. and a lot more. we're also going to speak to the president of telemundo media. emilio row mano. we're going to convene an economic summit to tackle america's debt crisis and outline growth scenarios for 2013. in addition to solving our budget problems and the fiscal cliff, we're also going to figure out how it affects the hotel industry with starwood's hotel ceo frits van paaschen who will join us on set. first, though, is that mcdonald's? >> yeah, mcdonald's blew expectations out of the water. this is the opposite 6 the report that we got last time. >> the exact opposite? >> yeah, the exact opposite. they beat on every level. in their global comps, they came up 2.4%. street was looking for down 0.1%. >> what? >> in the u.s. they were up 2.5% versus the down 0.8% that the street was expecting. in europe they were up by 1.4%. street was looking for up by 0.1%. and in asia pacific, middle east and africa they were up by 0.6% versus the drop of 0.4%. now, digging through this
to avoid the fiscal cliff. yesterday the president invited house speaker john boehner to the white house for their first face-to-face meeting in weeks. neither party releasing any details of what transpired in that meeting. reuters is reporting the house republican offer issued last week, quote, remains the republican offer. speaker john boehner is still waiting for a new proposal from president obama, that is all uncording to an unnamed aide to the speaker. meanwhile some republicans are calling on speaker john boehner to give the president what he wants on taxes so the party can focus on cutting entitlement programs. >> a lot of people are putting forth a theory, and i actually think it has merit where you go ahead and give the president the 2% increase that he's talking about, the rate increase on the top 2%, and all of a sudden the shift goes back to entitlements. >> if speaker john boehner ends up with senator corker has just said he is we will get a large agreement. but speaker john boehner hasn't said that, and so we democrats realize that there have to be two sides to this bargai
there may be only two people at the fiscal cliff negotiating table. according to the new york times house speaker john boehner says he wants to negotiate directly with president obama. he has asked that senate leaders and house minority leader nancy pelosi be excluded from future talks. and clearing a negotiating room improves the chances for success. just 25 minutes from now the closely watched monthly unemployment report will be released for november. coming up at 5:15 what economists say the numbers released this morning don't accurately reflect the current jobs market. >>> time now 5:05. reports an oakland church youth group visiting florida today is out of money and their belongings because thieves broke into their van. a group of 24 teenagers and young adults were eating at a restaurant yesterday. about an hour after arriving for a weekend youth conference. they are saying thieves broke into their van, stole $12,000 cash. one member of the group was able to have money wired to them so they at least spent last night in a hotel. there is no word yet if this group plans to come back to
john boehner sent a counteroffer to president obama to fend off the fiscal cliff. in a response to an offer made by the white house yesterday, we go to rich edson from washington, d.c. with the latest. rich, any response from the white house on this? >> still working on that. aids say in exchhnge of proposals taken place, some movement, but still major differences between the white house and speaker's office. fox news reports the speaker and president just spoke on the phone. white house folks say there's a sign of movement. a senior house aide says the white house reduced the demand for tax revenue increases from $1.6 trillion to $1.4 trillion, well short of the latest republican offer of $800 billion, though, there is another offer on the table from republicans that the details are unknown. boehner spokesman says we acceptability the white house a counteroffer to achieve reform to solve the crisis. we're still waiting for the white house to identify which spending cuts the president is willing to make as part of the balanced approach. fox news is reporting senior white house o
a near week long silence as the fiscal cliff looms. they promise to renew the negotiations. and are you earning $250,000, worried about having to pay more tax? you may be able to earn up to $300,000 and not have to hand over more cash to the irs. head to cnbc.com for more. and victor hugo's classic thofl about life, love and hitting the big screen. carolyn went to speak to the stars of the film to find out why the classic story still resonates. ♪ >> i think human truths are human truths and there's also a certain cycle to the world. >> just a look at the world and humanity, and we'll always be moved by a passion for fighting for what we believe in, we've always been moved by love. >> the power of redemption are all themes that transcend time. >> les mis has been performed 10,000 times and seen by 16 people worldwide. and now it's a major motion picture featuring hugh jackman and anne hathaway. so what does it take to transform wolverine and cat woman into the iconic characters. >> i wore contact lenses to get the redness in the eyes. i spent time in a prison here in london just to tal
? >> we wait. you hope there will be a resolution with the fiscal cliff. also 2013 could be a difficult year. it's the first year of the presidential term which is usually a weak un. earnings growth looks a little bit weaker. we are very big on di dends. we believe this is a grinded out market. prepare for instability. >> so it's glass half empty for you right now. >> we'd like to be optimistic but tell clients buy with sound balance sheets. and if the market goes up better, we're in a better position. >> i have to press you on what you say about you like companies that pay better dividends? >> right now you're looking at the. senate bill will will tax for gross incomes of $250,000. that's not a deal killer. there was an article this week talking about how dividends -- people buy dividends for income and downside protection. those issues do not go away regardless of what happens with taxes. people need income. >> you told us last time you liked europe. what about here in the united states? what would you buy here? >> well, i wouldn't buy anything if i haven't bought it already. i would
-span every day at 7:00 a.m. eastern. our coverage of the fiscal cliff includes speaker john boehner and minority leader nancy pelosi. that is coming up in a little more than 10 minutes. first, though, president obama speaks to members of the business roundtable about the economy. he told the c.e.o.'s that he would not negotiate as a precondition for raising the borrowing limit. because of technical problems, we are only able to show you part of his speech. >> we at the business roundtable are grateful to both the electricity -- for the engagement we have had with you and members of your team. listen, i know your team has really reached out significantly over the last few months to many people in this room. and i know personally from my work in the last three years on the export council that the outreach to us is again you in and we know you are seeking solutions that was outlined very sincerely this morning when we met with jack and the rest of the team. sense of purpose and commitment from us as we engage with you. there aren't a lot of wall flowers in here and eager for a two-way
want to say that i commend john boehner for his valiant attempts to stop the fiscal cliff and to make a deal without giving up growth principles. but when you say conservatives don't support boehner, what is eric cantor, what is paul ryan? what is jeb henesling if he's not a conservative? what is tom price if he's not a conservative? what exactly are you smoking? the top conservatives in the house support boehner. >> well, i actually don't think that somebody like tom price would if he has his choice of who he could pick out of everyone. we should have the power of self-determination. we shouldn't get seniority decide, this person should be the next person -- >> look. he is running the house. he's the speaker of the house. you confuse that with running the conservative movement. >> well, then why don't you come out and say, we shouldn't raise taxes. boehner came out and said we should raise taxes. >> i think boehner is doing the best he can to prevent marginal tax rates from rising. i think that's a very noble cause after conservatives and republicans lost in the last election. i thin
the treaties e tending u.n. treaty about disability or what they're saying by the fiscal cliff. we're seeing an important shift in their strategy. i think at the end of the day john boehner is going to decide it makes more sense to pass the senate bill, extending the tax cut to 98% saying to the public at large we're not going to deny you that but we're not going to pass the debt ceiling increase. on that they'll hang tougher seeking to extract something from the white house. >> i agree with half of that. i think they're going to wait for the debt ceiling crisis that they're going to create with their leverage. but it seems to me that they have more incentive to blame the democrats for rising taxes on everybody, and then come back and pass that middle class tax cut. i think we're going to see the sun setting of the bush tax cuts. i just don't see how the tea partyers essentially can do a preemptive basically pre- preemptive before the taxes go back up. >> eliot: charles, do you agree with sam? once the tax cuts have expired maybe they pass the tax cut for 98% but then use their leverage to n
will push back on president obama's demand for tax hikes on the rich when it comes to the fiscal cliff. but treasury secretary timothy geithner says the white house will not give in. >> no prospect to an agreement that doesn't involve those rates going up on the top 2% of the wealthiest americans. remember it's only 2%. >> geithner adds the obama administration is, quote, absolutely prepared to go off the cliff, if necessary. joining me now is van jones, cnn contributor and former obama administration official. good morning. >> god morning to you. >> so, van, i guess my first question that's eatsy for geithner to say, we're perfectly willing to go off the fiscal cliff. that means a tax hike on middle class americans and maybe some of them are thinking this morning i'm not really so happy geithner said that. >> it might have been inartful for him to say it the way he said it. i think he is making a very important point, which is that the american people did vote. they voted for the one thing the president said very clearly, which is that tax rates would go up on the wealthiest. it's an
: what is your hope for the second term? and first before we go there let's go to the fiscal cliff. what do you think ought to come out of an agreement between the president and john boehner? >> i make a couple comments. the first one is we've got to get this done now. not -- you know, there are people that will write or go on news shows and say we can let it lapse two weeks or something like that. that is specifically not true. we need this to get resolved now. not because jim mcinernie will say it. but because the people who work for us, their lives are in flux. and this is encredibly critical we get it done now. we need revenue. everybody knows we need rev. >> rose: so the president is right in asking for more revenue and not extending the bush tax cuts for $250,000? >> bowles simpson, there's not been one commission that says we can do this on spending cuts. i think speaker boehner is the only guy that can lead us in that. >> rose: he's got to take the republican house of representatives -- >> he's got to take the deal and i trust he can do it. >> rose: you're urging him to do it? to
at keeping the nation from going over the fiscal cliff. for the first time in a week yesterday, aides to the president and house speaker john boehner met but no discernible signs of progress. there seemed to be a hardening of positions on tax rates and possible reductions in spending. >>> pretty stern announcement from capitol hill, one of the senate's conservative leaders, jim demint of south carolina is quitting. he announced his resignation yesterday saying he will leach the senate january 1. demint will head a conservative think-tank now. south carolina's governor says there is no time table to announce demint's replacement. >> a lot of people are questioning this why he will take over the heritage foundation. his salary in the senate is $174,000. he is replacing a guy who, the head of the, the heritage foundation was making roughly $1 million a year. get, got a little bit of an increase. in salary. >> all of these politicians, go on to a lobbying, think-tank, consultant work, all that kind of stuff, they leave for big bucks there. he's considered one of the grandfathers of the te
:00 eastern. john boehner makes remarks on the fiscal cliff. we will show you that when the happens. by now, a little bit more about the fiscal cliff. >> we turn our attention this morning about unemployment benefits and how insurance could back -- how insurance could be impacted. thank you for coming in. we want to start the discussion. when we're talking about unemployment insurance, what specific programs are we talking about here? >> unemployment insurance is the combination of federal and state programs. it usually lasts up to six weeks. it can be extended up to 93 weeks, depending on which they were in. it is this extension that we're really talking about as part of the fiscal cliff. >> that is what might be cut. that is what automatically expires. we know it cost $30 billion to continue additional unemployment benefits. of the deal i want to make, the benefits should continue. firm stand. we have seen in the past obama host: what specific benefits do guest: usually some kind of a cash benefit or they may help the search for a job. it is usually about $300 a week. it can vary from sta
: a pleasant thought. what's happening in 23 days from now, that of course is the fiscal cliff. it was disheartening to hear john boehner come out yesterday and say we are nowhere near any sort of progress or any sort of outcome. >> we have been talking. >> clayton: we have been having lunch, haven't been talking to the other side. and look we have the countdown clock, 23 days. and republicans are basically saying, look, the president doesn't want to do this, doesn't want to have an agreement. the president though is saying, look, we can get this done. let's listen to the president first. >> when all of this, bypassing a law that prevents a tax like on the first $250,000 of everybody's income, that means 90% of americans and 97% of small businesses wouldn't see their income taxes go up by a single dime and even the wealthiest americans would get a tax cut on the first $250 of their income and families everywhere would enjoy some peace of mind. >> see, the thing is here, republicans think that the president doesn't want to do anything. at the end of the day, if the president dog
out of the way. it seems like quietly we're making progress on the fiscal cliff, people are saying garbage out in public. john boehner sitting down with the president, seems these two men are getting the job done. >> i think it is real. the president, no public events yesterday. even yesterday's event was never designed to be a fiscal cliff photo-op. there are very few fiscal cliff photo-ops planned this week. it is serious business. they have to come to a framework at the end of this week if they're going to get it written in time and passed in time so they all don't have to spend christmas in washington. joe, realize, whatever deal they agree to, it will be very fragile and it's likely to include more triggers for the end of next year. so they'll agree to some tax reform. if they can't write it, then say the highest tax rate will move from 37 to 39. on entitlements, they'll agree they have to find a certain amount of money and special commission but if they don't agree to it maybe the eligibility age goes automatically up. they'll be sort of sequester triggers to force the action
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